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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: thoughts on "borders" - political boundaries JacGanListschello 2006-Mar-12 22:05:00
I have a pano matching well the subject.
http://www.eu3d.com/st_petersburg/Narvaborder5.jpg
This border is in function again, after 60 years of idle state. It is 
normally not allowed to get off the car on this bridge but I  got permission 
accidentally due an unespected stop at the boom.
Narva castle (on the right) was build in XIII Century, and Ivangorod castle 
(on the left) - in the end of  XV Century.

Regards
Jacek


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> The border between the Vatican City and Rome....is geographic,
> symbolic, historical....
> and artistic, too! G.L. Bernini built the
> "colonnato" in the XVII century. I think that the S.Peter's view is one
> of the most famous "cartolina" (postcard) of the world, like la Tour
> Eiffel, London Bridge, the Branderburger Tor,...but I'm not afraid to
> be banal!
>
> Ciao a tutti,
>
> Giancarlo
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> Ogg: thoughts on &quot;borders&quot; - political
> boundaries
>
> We try to select WWP themes that allow a variety of
> interpretations
> and a wide range of creative expression. You can take
> the theme
> literally, or metaphorically. There is always some
> interesting
> discussion on this list in the weeks leading up to the
> event.
>
> I tend to take the themes rather literally - for "Water" I shot
> a
> waterfall and reservoir, for "Marketplace" the Ferry Building
> Marketplace. For me, as a geographer, one of the great things about
> the WWP is seeing all the different places, the varied environments
> and cultures all with a common theme.
>
> So, consider shooting actual
> borders - invisible lines on the ground,
> usually defined by
> governments, but then made visible by the human
> activities that must
> conform to them.
>
> Here are a few examples of interesting borders:
>
> In
> the desert of Southern California the line between Riverside and
> Imperial counties (usually county boundaries are of little account)
> is marked by a dramatic contrast between lush irrigated agriculture
> (grapes and oranges) on one side, and sere barren desert on the
> other. It is because an irrigation project boundary coincides with
> the county line.
>
> City and similar boundaries often show striking
> differences in
> development - protected greenbelt right up against
> subdivisions.
> Differing histories and municipal priorities sometimes
> highlight the
> boundary between two cities (my high school intern Kaz
> is working on
> one of these). Redevelopment district boundaries often
> contrast old
> with new neighborhoods, sewer and water district
> boundaries limit
> sprawl.
>
> The state of Nevada has for many years
> allowed activities that are
> illegal elsewhere, most notably gambling
> and prostitution. This has
> resulted in some striking border scenes.
> On several highways you
> drive for hours through uninhabited country,
> then find a cluster of
> gaudy casinos and hotels at the state line. On
> one lonely desert road
> the border is marked by a little cluster of
> shabby trailers with a
> huge sign announcing "brothel".
>
> I had a
> friend from Wisconsin (America's Dairyland) who said that
> sale of
> margarine was prohibited there, and as a result there were
> roadside
> "oleo" stands on major roads at the state line. I doubt if
> this is
> still true, but there are probably other similar cases.
> Driving
> across Texas, for example, one passes through "dry" counties,
> where
> sale of alcoholic beverages is strictly limited.
>
> California even has
> border checkpoints with adjacent states - for
> agricultural
> inspection. I found the same thing between the two
> Mexican states of
> Baja California Norte and Sur, where armed guards
> check your papers
> then ask blandly if you have any "guns, drugs, or
> citrus fruit".
>
> Some borders are notable for their very insignificance - the US-
> Canada border for example. Until recently it was unfenced and
> unguarded, often marked only by a line clearcut through the forest.
> In one location it even runs down the middle of the village street.
> But now, with drug-smuggling from Canada becoming a problem, along
> with Homeland Security concerns, the border checkpoints are being
> vastly expanded.
>
> The US-Mexico border is a fascinating subject .
> Although patrolled
> and in places fenced, it is remarkably porous,
> with at least 350,000
> "undocumented aliens" crossing it each year. My
> wife and I camped
> right next to the border once, and all night we
> heard people running
> past our tent, northbound in the dark. The
> border itself varies from
> high fence with moat and surveillance
> cameras in urban areas, to a
> simple barbed-wire cattle fence out in
> the desert. In Texas it runs
> down the middle of the river (Rio Grande
> in the US, Rio Bravo in
> Mexico).
>
> In several places twin cities have
> grown up on the international
> border: Detroit and Windsor, Niagara
> Falls-Niagara Falls on the
> northern border; San Diego-Tijuana, El
> Paso-Juarez, Laredo-Nuevo
> Laredo on the southern border. The daily
> border crossings in these
> cities are on a truly massive scale.
>
> I
> once flew across the border between the Dominican Republic and
> Haiti.
> The Dominican side was undisturbed forest - an uninhabited
> military
> buffer zone. The Haitian side was raw red eroding hillsides
> with
> virtually no trees, dotted with straw-thatched villages.
>
> Some borders
> that used to be important are now much less significant
> - for example
> between the former West and East Germany, and through
> Berlin. But
> others have gained in importance - new countries formed
> by the
> breakup of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, internal
> boundaries
> become international borders.
>
> Borders often show signs of former
> conflicts - fortifications from
> the Maginot Line to Hadrian's Wall,
> as well as monuments to peace
> treaties. And of course some borders
> are still scenes of conflict -
> the repeatedly redefined borders of
> Israel.
>
> Culture often changes at a border - signs and place names can
> be in
> different languages, postal boxes and uniforms change, there
> are
> usually flags.
>
> I'm running out of time here, but I hope this may
> have sparked a few
> ideas. Everyone, please share your creative ideas
> with the list.
>
> Don
>
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