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Re: Globorama
caroling 2008-May-25 22:36:00
To call a QuickTime Virtual Reality panorama a "photo" shows either ignorance or
disrespect. I'm outraged. In flaunting their own technology they are blind to
the technology and nature of the work that they steal. We should get this into
some art world blogs and make sure artists and news organizations around the
world know what is being done here by a so-called art museum. Macworld or some
of the Mac sites might pick it up.
Willie, this teaser movie makes the presentation real. Thanks.
--
Caroling, www.wholeo.net
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From: Willy Kaemena <#removed#>
To: #removed#
Subject: Re: Globorama
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:08:47 +0000
> here a teaser to understand their modification.
>
> as already said video cam battery is empty and I am on the road emmm
> rail...
>
> the complete movie tomorrow.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/GloboramaWWPTeaser.mov
>
> Willy
>
> On May 25, 2008, at 19:35, Willy Kaemena wrote:
>
> > I was just downloading the video from my cam to my Mac when the
> > battery went down... sorry no charger with me. Video will be ready
> > only tomorrow morning GMT
> >
> > But Ayrton's World Cup Pano was also there..... and Jook and Milko and
> > and and..
> >
> > all was captured by me....
> >
> > Willy Kaemena
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> >
> > On May 25, 2008, at 19:21, AYRTON wrote:
> >
> >> That's is not funny :=(They think that just giving a credit to the
> >> author is
> >> enough to use it on THEIR servers and to GET money from sponsors !
> >>
> >> What about US ???
> >>
> >> I don't even know if I had somehting used, probably not, since I'm
> >> in South
> >> America, but this is a violation of the WWP website and SERVERS !!!
> >>
> >> What does you guys think about it ?
> >>
> >> AYRTON
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Willy Kaemena <#removed#>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK folks
> >>>
> >>> I am ready with my 5h exhibition visit of Globorama. here some
> >> facts:
> >>>
> >>> - They use some WWP apparently form 2006 and before
> >>> - the panos are used in a partial non interactive cylindrical
> >>> projection and it bears several times on the 360 degrees the name of
> >>> the photographer.
> >>> - The panos are coming from their local server
> >>> - the satellite maps used are NOT from Google Earth, but Microsoft
> >>> according them, due too license problems wit GE......
> >>> - whatever I could capture on video will be put together showing
> >> as an
> >>> evidence with the name of the photographer and the pano This movie
> >>> should be online in a few hours from now.
> >>> - asking about when Globorama was developed they answered from 2006
> >>> onwards.
> >>> - next planned exhibitions are planned in France and Seville Spain.
> >>> - as already known from their website, they show WWP panoramas from
> >>> their local server and live webcams is the only content being
> >> streamed.
> >>> - the navigation with the laser pointer is way cool.
> >>>
> >>> OK now putting the movie together... while traveling at 250km/h
> >>> towards my home in Bremen...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And then lets decide what to do with them....
> >>>
> >>> Quite a lot of public and sponsor money went to this project...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Willy Kaemena
> >>>
> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> >>> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> >>> http://syria.360cities.net/
> >>> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> >>>
> >>> On May 25, 2008, at 8:17, Willy Kaemena wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bostjan
> >>>>
> >>>> I am quite sure that the presentation of the panorama controlled
> >> with
> >>>> a laser pointer is quite unique. But again that gives them no
> >> rights
> >>>> to present the WWP without prior release or negotiation by each
> >>>> photographer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just heading towards Stuttgart at 125 mph ( 200km/h) soon
> >>>> accelerating to 186 mph ( 300km/h)
> >>>>
> >>>> Willy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 24, 2008, at 18:51, Bostjan Burger wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Bo Lorentzen : "This page is presenting the panorama fest as the
> >>>>> artwork or
> >>>>> presentation by Bernd Lintermann, Joachim B?ttger, Torsten
> >>>>> Belschner. Which
> >>>>> clearly it is not."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is another ?BINGO?! Yes ...whose artwork was projection
> >> anyway?
> >>>>> Ours or of the organizers of the Globorama project? I am familiar
> >>>>> with such installations as Globorama ? it is trivial example: my
> >>>>> daughters asked me to drive them to Disneyland in Paris and
> >> what I
> >>>>> saw there ? a great 'cyclorama alike' theatre where was projected
> >>>>> 360? movie (that was in the year 2003), I think that was a
> >> Voyage of
> >>>>> Jules Verne over the France. The feeling of watching the movie
> >> was
> >>>>> fantastic and the technology of the projection was the same as
> >> this
> >>>>> one in Stuttgart, at least what I saw in the previously posted
> >>>>> movie. In Disneyland was projected 360? movie (do you remember
> >>>>> Jeffrey's movie over the Prague ? 360cities.net?), but there in
> >>>>> Stuttgart was projected the interactive VR panorama. So I
> >> consider
> >>>>> that the "artwork point" of the installation was the
> >> possibility to
> >>>>> grab (read: hijack) the pano from the "free" internet and
> >> project it
> >>>>> on the 360? wall? After my na?ve experience from the
> >>>>> past I had put on my web site - translated from Slovene language:
> >>>>> "All data, text, photos, pictures and VR panoramas are owned by
> >> the
> >>>>> author. No other use like storing to other servers, hot linking,
> >>>>> copy-pasting, modifying images is not allowed. "
> >>>>> I am really curious what is happening in Stuttgart, unfortunately
> >>>>> there is seven hours drive from my place to there and I have a
> >> lack
> >>>>> of time at the moment
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :) Bostjan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Willy Kaemena
> >>>>
> >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> >>>> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> >>>> http://syria.360cities.net/
> >>>> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>> The World-Wide Panorama
> >>>>
> >>>> For more information:
> >>>> -Visit the web site at http://GeoImages.Berkeley.edu/
> >> wwp.htmlYahoo!
> >>>> Groups Links
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> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> ------
> >>> The World-Wide Panorama
> >>>
> >>> For more information:
> >>> -Visit the web site at http://GeoImages.Berkeley.edu/
> >> wwp.htmlYahoo! Groups
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> Willy Kaemena
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> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
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