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Re: Texas or California?
Shawn Steigner 2004-Sep-29 04:54:00
My vote is for Texas.
More of the frame includes the bridge and the people make it
interesting.
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Shawn Steigner
www.photosurveyor.com
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From: John Schwarzell <#removed#>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:30 AM
Subject: Texas or California?
> OK, gang, what do you want to see submitted? I had the distinct
pleasure
> of shooting in Austin, TX and Venice, CA in two days over the equinox
> weekend, and I do like both the shots I got at dusk; one of them, the
> Barton Springs Road Bridge & Footbridge, the other the Howland Canal
> Bridge in Venice, CA. They're both 20th century bridges (early), and
> both are over a water feature. There were severe hardships in creating
> the Barton Springs (Austin, TX) image, in that I shot from a
footbridge
> that has a peculiar pendulumatic period that resonates just right when
> joggers step onto the bridge. Even walkers made the bridge undulate an
> inch or so. Joggers caused a six to eight inch undulation vertically,
> and made the shot take over 1/2 hour to make after waiting and
exposure
> changes and the bribing of two joggers to help block traffic for a few
> seconds here and there. Everyone in Austin seems to jog between the
> hours of 4am and 8pm all day all night and all the time, just
> constantly! Maybe a jogger every few seconds. More on that story and
> traffic jams getting there (and some doubt as to where it was to begin
> with).
>
> In Venice, it's a much more pleasant story, and there will be a series
> of three of the four historic Venice bridges to come, as the fourth
has
> a lot of construction around it right now... easy to get to, wonderful
> timing, nice breeze, good Mexican dinner, and polite canal dwellers
> giving their blessing shooting right in front of their houses...
>
> I think I'll go with the Austin image....full stories to follow on my
> site and in submission.
>
> http://www.exophrenic.com/vr/equinox2004/BartonSpringsBridges.html
> http://www.exophrenic.com/vr/equinox2004/HowlandCanal.html
>
> Thanks for all your stories and images thus far!
>
> John Schwarzell
> LA, CA
>
> #removed# wrote:
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> >There are 4 messages in this issue.
> >
> >Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: Playing around with GPS-coordinates...
> > From: "Bo" <#removed#>
> > 2. Re: My story - Korean Friendship Bell and Colorado Street
Bridge
> > From: "Mickael Therer" <#removed#>
> > 3. Re: Playing around with GPS-coordinates...
> > From: G. Donald Bain <#removed#>
> > 4. my story : le pont rouge - a suicide bridge
> > From: "Mickael Therer" <#removed#>
> >
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> >Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:27:25 -0000
> > From: "Bo" <#removed#>
> >Subject: Re: Playing around with GPS-coordinates...
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> >Bernhard,
> >
> >That is VERY cool, you gave me a very direct idea of where everybody
> >in Europe have been photographing, (and mostly where everybody is
> >located.)
> >
> >Very cool.
> >
> >
> > Bo
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In #removed#, Bernhard Vogl <#removed#> wrote:
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> >
> >>Because of pure curiosity i have transferred the WWP Locations to
> >>Garmin's "Mapsource" Software.
> >>European Locations without Coordinates have been inserted as "best
> >>guess" and markes as a circle instead of a square.
> >>
> >>..if you are interested, take a look at
> >>http://bernie.x-net.at/wwp904
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> >>You can downlaod the .gdb-File there and look at a screenshot of
> >>
> >>
> >Europe.
> >
> >
> >>Best regards
> >>Bernhard
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> >Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:38:09 -0000
> > From: "Mickael Therer" <#removed#>
> >Subject: Re: My story - Korean Friendship Bell and Colorado Street
Bridge
> >
> >Hi Roger,
> >
> >these are all beautiful shots but my favorite goes straight to
number4
> >I'm not sure why but it talks to me probably the presence of tree,
the
> >dry stones and the water add to the bridge.
> >
> >-mickael
> >
> >
> >--- In #removed#, Roger Howard <#removed#> wrote:
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> >>Well, I had a very busy weekend with multiple sides of family in
town -
> >>lots of running back and forth across Southern California, and with
> >>little spare time in sight.''
> >>
> >>On Saturday I went to the Port of LA/Long Beach hoping to shoot
either
> >>the Vincent Thomas or (preferably) the Henry Ford Bridge, a
beautiful
> >>steel draw bridge connecting Long Beach to Terminal Island (build as
> >>part of the war effort in WWII). Unfortunately the Henry Ford was
shut
> >>down for construction work, and the Vincent Thomas is somewhat
> >>inaccessible (no sidewalk, and the streets around it are very
> >>industrial and primarily private).
> >>
> >>So we hit the Korean Friendship Bell site in San Pedro (the other
side
> >>of Vincent Thomas), to have a nice hike on a beautiful day... the
> >>Korean Friendship Bell was given to the US as part of the
bicentennial
> >>celebrations in 1976, and serves as a metaphorical bridge between
the
> >>peoples of the two nations and their respective cultures. On the day
we
> >>visited there were about 50 Korean visitors in a group, mostly well
> >>into their 70s and 80s and it was very interesting to watch,
especially
> >>as a large Mexican wedding crowd arrived to have their wedding
photos
> >>taken on the grounds and in front of the bell. However, I still
wasn't
> >>convinced I wanted to use this as my contribution, as I had really
> >>hoped to shoot a real, literal bridge.
> >>
> >>Finally, Sunday in between chores and work, I hopped in the car and
> >>sped to Pasadena, suddenly inspired to shoot a bridge I had seen for
> >>many years but had never visited. The Colorado Street Bridge is a
> >>magnificent, long concrete bridge that swoops over the Arroyo Seco
and
> >>is very typical of early 20th century LA style. It's right near the
> >>Rose Bowl, if you've ever been to the area, and can't be missed from
> >>the 210 freeway. I knew the area roughly, but it took me about 45
> >>minutes to find the best spot to unload my gear from and begin to
work
> >>my way down into the canyon - there were no good signs marking
trails,
> >>so I ended up doing a considerable amount of hiking and climbing to
> >>finally get right up to the bridge. There were a few folks along the
> >>way, met a homeless guy living down there in bliss (it would be
quite
> >>easy to stay out of sight), and managed to climb myself into a few
> >>off-limits areas.
> >>
> >>Please take a look at:
> >>
> >><http://www.pbase.com/rogerhoward/coloradostbridge>
> >>
> >>I still haven't chosen which one I like most - I also haven't
finished
> >>the exposure blending, so these are each just one exposure just to
get
> >>a sense for the framing.
> >>
> >>If you're interested, here's a rough (unblended) pano of the Korean
> >>Friendship Bell, shot handheld and not finished:
> >>
> >><http://www.pbase.com/rogerhoward/image/34329838>
> >>
> >>Any feedback would be very appreciated so I can finally pick which
to
> >>send off to WWPano!
> >>
> >>- R
> >>
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> >Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:44:48 -0700
> > From: G. Donald Bain <#removed#>
> >Subject: Re: Playing around with GPS-coordinates...
> >
> >Bernhard,
> >
> >My previous message came across as a little harsh. What I should have
> >said was:
> >
> >Very interesting, and useful. It sure makes an ugly map, though. :-)
> >
> >Don
> >
> >
> >On Sep 27, 2004, at 6:46 AM, Bernhard Vogl wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Because of pure curiosity i have transferred the WWP Locations to
> >>Garmin's "Mapsource" Software.
> >>European Locations without Coordinates have been inserted as "best
> >>guess" and markes as a circle instead of a square.
> >>
> >>..if you are interested, take a look at
> >>http://bernie.x-net.at/wwp904
> >>
> >>You can downlaod the .gdb-File there and look at a screenshot of
> >>Europe.
> >>
> >>Best regards
> >>Bernhard
> >>
> >>
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> >Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:51:10 -0000
> > From: "Mickael Therer" <#removed#>
> >Subject: my story : le pont rouge - a suicide bridge
> >
> >from the minute the choice of bridges was announced I thought:"chucks
takes me
> >years back to my first photography classes". Then as time passed I
began thinking
> >that it was a second chance (I miserably failed that exercice at the
time) and maybe I
> >could do something simple this time.
> >
> >I started listing the spectacular bridges i could have nearby: zero.
A little further
> >away: zero . All are modern bridges and the only ones I could think
of where in wwp2
> >already. France is not out of reach but I thought i'd leave that to
my great co-listers
> >on the French list. Holland? yeah I thought Arnhem bridges are right
on target. Luckily
> >I changed my mind or that would have left my sore face on Gerard's
great pano and
> >me without anything to show !
> >
> >so I set myself on simplicity, there are 2 bridges in my backyard. No
big deal, just 2
> >concrete plaques joining the grassy banks of the river Mehaigne, used
to allow the
> >crossing of cows, no ornaments, no traffic, bearely noticeable at
all. It seamed like a
> >good choice, in the early morning when the fog floats from the river
and the sun
> >pierces through the trees the light can be beautiful there. That was
my first choice, I
> >could even go and shoot it in my pyjamas as it's right out my bedroom
... if the light
> >comes between 18-22 September. It didn't.
> >
> >Meanwhile as I was still running my brain on hypothetical great
bridges within my
> >reach, i remembered seeing a short film some 10 or 15 years ago I
wasn't sure when
> >it was or where it was. I could only remember the movie was called
'Le Pont Rouge"
> >(the red bridge) and it carried a terrible story of people throwing
themselves from it.
> >and I had the intuition it wasn't far.
> >It didn't take long to locate the bridge : Luxembourg some 200 kms
away. it took a
> >little longer to locate the bridge there but on the 16th I finally
had its coordiinates
> >and a roadmap to get there. I decided to allow one day away from my
dear garden
> >bridge and drive off to Luxembourg to see what it looked like.
> >
> >when I got there I realized how monstruous and red it was. I also
realized I had a very
> >sad story in mind and only pictures to show relating to past and
unseen events. What
> >was meant to be a simple exercice was turning into sth much more
difficult to
> >achieve. Also, the sky was clear blue, the light vertical and the
shadows deep. The
> >hills were very steep and the district below the bridge was now under
the grown
> >trees. The sound of it was also frightening.
> >
> >Of that day in Luxembourg I kept 3 panos I'm still unsure which I
will post on the wwp
> >(although my wife has a strong opinion on that and i will probably
follow her)
> >here they are along with the story of the bridge
> >http://mediapiculture.net/360days/index.php?id=33
> >
> >I'd be happy to get some feedback
> >
> >-mickael
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