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Re: OT
Francis Fougere 2006-Sep-19 02:55:00
Yes folks this is why I shared my project ideas here to get a heads up on
the pitfalls of my folly. Thank you Yuv for the suggestions, some of which I
had thought about and others which I'm scrambling with in my mind. For the
horizon I was planning to stay well off shore so that parallax and matching
detail would not be too hard. The boom and the sails are very low so the
horizon on half the pano will not be visible. I had not given much thought
to the boat climbing up and down waves so the bubble level suggestion is
very appreciated. I'm using a 16-35mm lens at 16mm for a ten shot row on the
5D which gives me plenty of overlap, maybe too much. For the upper row I
shoot 10 shots but only use every 2nd shot and not need a zenith. Sometimes
I need a very small piece of the discarded shots to fill a small hole or to
even out the tonal part of the shot. Same for the lower row but I do shoot a
nadir. I plan to work the seam at the front or back edge of the sail. This
boat is a very low to the water sleek vessel and the camera will only be a
few feet above the water. As for the sunset I think I will try to shoot an
hour or two before to get a low sun but still have lots of light.
As for the measurement rules.....these boats would race each other and the
measurement rules would try to make the boats somewhat even without stifling
the design qualities. The America's Cup 8 Meter yachts were measured through
a complicated rule to insure that they were competitive with each other. At
least till the Australasian put wings on their keel. The "R" boat was
similar just measured to a different rule.
My backup plan is to shoot a Q400 passenger plane from Bombardier but I'm
trying to turn that into a commercial job and I can't schedule that for this
week.
Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: "yuval levy" <#removed#>
To: <#removed#>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: OT
> Thanks to all those who shared their personal projects
> or general ideas with me.
>
> Francis: your endeavour sounds a very inspiring
> challenge and I wish you success!
>
> --- Francis Fougere <#removed#> wrote:
>> built to conform to the letter rule
>> rather than the meter rule.
>
> excuse my ignorance, what are the letter rule and the
> meter rule?
>
>
>> As the boat will be heeling over
>> while sailing, setting the horizon may be tricky
>
> I am sure you already thought of all factors that you
> need to consider. I will share with you this little
> experience of mine from five months ago, hoping it can
> help. It's about two factors to consider: the horizon
> and the parallax if there are objects on the horizon
> close by.
>
> Five months ago I experimented on the ferry between
> Quebec-City and Levis. Much easier conditions than the
> ones you are putting yourself into. I tried two
> things.
>
> (1) I used a bubble level and waited for the boat to
> be level before triggering each shot (and I do only
> six around). The horizon was straight, but I had too
> much parallax on the approaching Chateau Frontenac on
> Quebec-City's shore. Scrapped.
>
> (2) I started the circle of the horizon with the
> camera pointed into the direction where there was
> least detail (in this case the channel between Orleans
> Island and the South Shore, to the east) and went
> through the shots as fast as I could. six around. This
> yielded a useful stitch, but required some tweaking at
> the seam between the first and the last picture.
> Barely useful.
>
>
>> that and the 30 shots that
>> I normally shoot for a pano.
>
>
> what lens? multi-row on a boat? how many rows
>
>
>> Now if the weather will cooperate with a nice
>> SW breeze in the 6-8 knot range and a good sunset
>> sky. What are the chances?
>
>
> Wow. You are consciously setting yourself up against
> the elements.
>
> Sunset? must be fast to avoid too much of a color
> change - and still slow enough to catch a proper
> horizon in the middle row shooting.
>
> Breeze? hope the wind won't move the sail and the
> clouds too much while you go through your top row and
> zenith shooting.
>
> And in such a restricted space, I guess you will also
> have to pay attention where your feet are when
> shooting the lower row and the nadir?
>
> Did you already make preliminary tests, or are you
> jumping into the cold water with this plan? have you
> made backup plans?
>
> Very inspiring|
> Yuv
>
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