wwp@yahoogroups.com:
Re: Holding back the legal expertise?
David 2008-Nov-15 23:03:00
<sigh>
This posting (and general subject matter) is neither appropriate or
within the rules for this list (nor is it the first occurrence.)
Moderators, I suggest you put a stop this before this list erupts in
open warfare.
--- In #removed#, "Carsten T. Rees" <listen@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry again for this off-topic posting. I am ready to pay
compensation in form of a glass
> of good wine from our region, if a member of the WWP-Community
should choose to call
> me and drop by. And in case your are not upset by this off-topic
posting, do not hesitate,
> call anyway and drop by, but allow me some time to cool the white
wine. On second
> thought, let's not stop after one glass.
>
> Now then back to serious business. Well not really seroius, but
rather absurd and surreal,
> a real good laugh after days of stress and distress:
>
> A confused member of the ZKM-Friends list has forwarded a posting on
this list from Mr.
> Levy to me. I would like to cite the first two sentences:
>
> "This is serious and extremely important: we are currently not
allowed to?use the legal
> expertise that we paid for until its status is cleared.
>
> Anybody who had access to it as member of the task force, please
refrain from using it or
> distributing it."
>
> What a complete bunch of rubbish and how extremely funny on the
other hand.
>
> I have had my second major battle with Mr. Levy on the question, how
to proceed with the
> expertise. Approximately two weeks before we received the expertise,
I had suggested to
> the Task-Force to reasses our situation and discuss, whether we
should tell the Friends
> List, when the expertise is at hand or if we should go even further
and directly publish the
> expertise on the Friends-List.
>
> I have had to hear some personal attacks and insults from Mr. Levy,
who was enraged that
> I thus should dare to question his leadership, when weeks before he
had decided to keep
> his hands on this expertise. Mr. Levy wanted to have me excluded
from the Task-Force for
> sabotage and raising this issue - in his so charming way of saying
"its him or me, I am
> your leader, but if you should choose to decide for him, I shall lay
down my mandate"
> (cited from memory - you remember, I have no access to any of the
two groups, nor its
> archives). The Task-Force decided against my exclusion and also
asked Mr. Levy to stay.
> For the sake of peace within the group I aggreed to the demand of
Mr. Levy to neither
> publish the expertise nor to say a word of its existance to the
Friends-List. So I must
> admit, that I wholeheartedly laughed, when I read the above cited
sentences. There might
> by some kind of higher justice in it after all.
>
> From the very beginning of the whole affair I have told Mr.
Pustejovsky, our laywer, that I
> was acting on behalf of an international group of
Panorama-Photographers and Panorama
> Artists. So it was clear to me that the expertise belongs to the
members of the Friends-
> List.
>
> But what now is the problem?
>
> After a legal check of the situation it has become clear to me, that
according to German
> law only a natural or legal person can give a mandate to a laywer.
The Friends-Group is
> neither. The WWP-Panorama association is a legal person by now, I am
to my current
> knowledge a natural person.
>
> How to proceed further? I shall contact Mr. Pustejovsky on Monday to
get this point clear.
> But perhaps this situation makes possible, what I always really
wanted - make the
> expertise public to those, who have comissioned it in a moral sense
and who have paid for
> it in hard coin. I would like to grant the right of personal use to
every single person on the
> Friends-List, even to Mr. Levy and Mr. Amorth. After a certain
peroid I would then transfer
> the co-right of the expertise to the WWP-foundation. But first I
will have to talk to Mr.
> Pustejovsky. After my talk with him I will try to inform the friends
on how I can proceed.
>
> Mit vielen Gr??en
>
> Carsten T. Rees
>