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Date/Time:2005-Sep-27 06:40:00
Subject:Re: help! my file is too large

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: help! my file is too large northwest_omnipresence 2005-Sep-27 06:40:00
--- In #removed#, "Simon Maguire" <#removed#> wrote:
> In ArcSoft Panorama Maker you have the option early on to choose 
between 
> small, medium or large which will determine the width and height of 
your 
> panorama.

Oh right, yes I remember now. I have a not so current version and the 
intial size setting (small medium large) is not as prominently 
identifiable as later versions. It is easy to overlook.

I have tried some of your suggestions and I am a somewhat satisfied 
with the result. The full screen version is at least a little clearer 
now. 

I am slowly discovering I do not have as many useful tools in my 
computer as I thought I had. I use Jasc's Paintshop pro. Not 
Photoshop. ArcSoft is a bit of a chore, but I have figured out how to 
fit it into my hobbyist persuits. I use a simple point and shoot 
camera. NOWadays I am looking into a parabolic mirror attachment, or 
the panoflex digital scanning camera (heh yeh right smirk) or a 
digital slr and a fisheye, plus the software and perhaps even a 35mm 
scanning panoramic camera.

--- In #removed#, "Simon Maguire" <#removed#> wrote:
> you can also 'Save As' jpeg, tiff or bmp from memory - tiff or bmp 
best. In 
> another graphics program, crop your tiff or bmp to a width of 4000 -
 6000 
> pixels and 'save as'. This smaller version can then be opened with 
P.Maker 
> and then Saved As a Quicktime Movie. By trial and error you should 
be able 
> to get down to a more suitable size.

When I resave the TIF image (made in PMaker) in Paint Shop after re-
sizing the canvass (not croping) to fit the 4000-6000 pixel width 
which you suggested, PMaker refuses to open it saying it does not 
support LZW compression (??). So I tried Windows BMP instead. With 
some trial and error I got the final MOV file down to 2.56 MB - this 
was fine for the full screen image (well, no, not really, it turned 
pixel-ated but at least was clearer) but I am afraid it wont improve 
things much at all if i try the same steps for the small version. 500 
KB is a hard target to reach.


--- In #removed#, "Simon Maguire" <#removed#> wrote:
> In ArcSoft Panorama Maker you have the option early on to choose 
between 
> small, medium or large which will determine the width and height of 
your 
> panorama. Preferable to select 'large'. At the end of the stitching 
process 
> you can also 'Save As' jpeg, tiff or bmp from memory - tiff or bmp 
best. In 
> another graphics program, crop your tiff or bmp to a width of 4000 -
 6000 
> pixels and 'save as'. This smaller version can then be opened with 
P.Maker 
> and then Saved As a Quicktime Movie. By trial and error you should 
be able 
> to get down to a more suitable size. Have found P.Maker very useful 
over the 
> years but only for non 360 panoramas. Hope this helps.
> Simon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "northwest_omnipresence" <#removed#>
> To: <#removed#>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: help! my file is too large
> 
> 
> > Caroling,
> >
> > I am no professional - I shoot with a Fuji Finepix A345 (3 mega 
pl)
> > and a Nikon 3700 Coolpix (3.2 Mp). The file format for both 
cameras
> > seems to be jpg by default. I do not know if a TIFF or other non
> > compressed format is available in the camera settings. I have not
> > had much success shooting in JPG, then converting to TIFF, then
> > working with images. If the camera shoots in JPG, then...?
> >
> > As for conversion program - The file stitcher I use has a button 
on
> > it that "exports" the JPG to MOV with the single click of a 
button.
> > I have no user control over this process, just click the button, 
get
> > the MOV.
> >
> > I am sure your advice is sound, both logically and 
experientially, I
> > just dont know of the other JPG to MOV conversion programs.
> >
> > sean bickford
> >
> > --- In #removed#, Caroling Geary <#removed#> wrote:
> >> Compressing JPEGs is compressing twice. You are getting a lot of
> > size
> >> trying to compress the JPEG compression artifacts. If you start
> > with
> >> a clean original, your conversion program has less to compress.
> > I'm
> >> no expert, but trial and error can verify what I say. Try
> > compressing
> >> (converting) an original TIFF and a JPEG of the same file. See
> > which
> >> output file is smaller and better quality.
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:48 PM, northwest_omnipresence wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I am working with JPEG files. ...  but it seems that I 
need
> > a
> >> > better conversion tool.
> >>
> >> Caroling Geary
> >> www.wholeo.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------
> > The World-Wide Panorama
> >
> > For more information:
> > -Visit the web site at http://GeoImages.Berkeley.edu/wwp.html
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



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