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Re: Nikon 2.8/10,5 Sigma 3.5/8 or Tokina 10-17 ?
AYRTON 2009-May-11 13:59:00
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Alex Makienko <#removed#>wrote:
> Luciano,
>
> This is just one of the beautiful places in the Algonquin Provincial Park,
> north-west of Ottawa, Canada. We were running downhill to get back to the
> car before sunset and I shot this pano almost on the run, in a few seconds.
> This is an example of possible mistake while shooting - sun was positioned
> exactly on the middle vertical line of the frame and sun was low, that's why
> the flare is huge and is located exactly in between of two other neighboring
> images so it was impossible to patch it. I love this place and uploaded this
> pano to my website despite of poor quality. I hope to get back there this
> summer and replace the pano by a new one. Actually I plan to redesign my web
> site completely by the end of the year and you'll see much more panos with
> much better quality. :-)
It's funny that it shows some kind of engineering and not photography
I mean, in ARTs the message is always superior to tech details
Everybody wants to do the best they can,
but in the end, the MESSAGE is what counts.
It is always better a photo that tells the history
Than a perfect technical xpto, full of everything is perfect, but the msg,
ohhhh the message was forgotten inside so many tec details :-)
Just a opinion form working with news and knowing that editors wants THE msg
captured
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Luciano
> To: #removed#
> Sent: May 11, 2009 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Nikon 2.8/10,5 Sigma 3.5/8 or Tokina 10-17 ?
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> Flares, dust or waterdrops... why you guys don't photoshop it off from
> your
> panos? Alex, your words "This is one of my worst panos..." is sad, please
> don't say it again, just photoshop it and be happy! ;p)
>
> btw, cool place, the valley behind the woods, where is locate?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luciano
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Alex Makienko <#removed#
> >wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Hans,
> >
> > The spots in the image you refer have absolutely the same nature as
> here:
> >
> >
> http://dimensions360.com/index.php?screen=show&id=7087d155&galle...
> >
> > This pano has been taken under an intensive shower - dense water dust
> was
> > coming from the powerful waterfall (yes, the lens had been thoroughly
> > cleaned before and, of course, after shoting :-)). What you see there is
> > IMAGES of waterdrops on the front lens of Nikkor.
> >
> > Here:
> >
> >
> http://dimensions360.com/index.php?screen=show&id=e222c0bc&galle...
> >
> > the nature of the spot is completely different. This is one of my worst
> > panos and a pure example of Nikkor's FLARE.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hans Nyberg
> > To: #removed# <wwp%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: May 10, 2009 8:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: Nikon 2.8/10,5 Sigma 3.5/8 or Tokina 10-17 ?
> >
> > On 11/05/2009, at 2.00, Alex Makienko wrote:
> >
> > > C'mon! Do you think I'm a rookie? ;-) Please be sure that having 30
> > > + years in serious photography (including professionsl one) and
> > > being MS in physics (you probably know that optics is the part of
> > > physics) I know how to keep lens clean.
> > >
> > > For your information: Flares shaped like spots, polygons and
> > > somethong like that are NEVER caused by grease, fingerprints,
> > > scratches etc. These defects cause parasitic beams, star-like
> > > spots, additional lighting and anything else BUT spots and flares.
> > > I hope I do not need to refer to a fundamental optics to confirm
> > > that. Please just trust my experience in physics (and optics
> > > particulary) and photography.
> >
> > Sorry Alex but I beat you. I have 56 years experience in photography
> > of which 42 is as a professional photographer,
> >
> > Of course you get flares with poligons because of a lens which is
> > not cleaned.
> > Here is an example taken a couple of years ago.
> > http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/flare/dust.jpg
> >
> > This is the Canon 15mm one the best fisheye you can get. It has
> > practically no flare very little CA very little lightfall and
> > sharpness is exellent.
> > However I took my brand new lens and went out to test it without even
> > taking the lens cap of and look at the frontlens.
> >
> > I did not think of that it had to be cleaned before I used it, and
> > on top of that I also by mistake on my new 5D stopped down to F19
> > which accelerated the problem.
> >
> > I see this a lot on panos made even by very experienced
> > photographers. And people complain that the lens has flares but in
> > reality it is just a dirty lens stopped down to 16 or even 22.
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > Hans Nyberg
> > Panoramas.dk<http://www.panoramas.dk>
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> > email: #removed# <hans%40nyberg.com>
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