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Date/Time:2008-Jun-27 17:24:00
Subject:Re: Holly WAR?! :D

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: Holly WAR?! :D johncharlesriley 2008-Jun-27 17:24:00
Wow, Josh... it is hard to know just how to respond to this tirade.  Could you point us to 
your work?  Just something to let us know that you are a genuine person and not a pawn 
of ZKM?  I mean, are you able to document that you are a photographer (amateur or pro) 
in the USA or South America or Australia, or whatever?  I just have trouble believing that 
you aren't associated with ZKM somehow.  It would be easier to imagine trying to have a 
dialogue with you if I (we) were certain of whom we were talking to.

John

--- In #removed#, "Josh" <wwp@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hurray - here they are again, the narrow-minded* who forgot to take the blinkers off. 
You 
> talk about artwork and you want to be artists? The way you talk reveals that you haven't 
> even caught a glimpse of arts. Meanwhile I hope there will never be a collaboration 
> between you and ZKM because you don't deserve it. You have NO IDEA, what immense 
> development has been done by the people at ZKM. Compared to such creative genius 
you 
> are just pathetic bourgeois with dollar-signs in your eyes. You have not the brains to 
> understand the meaning of 'net culture' because you are not cultured.
> 
> Too harsh words for you? I am smirking. I am just talking to you in the same way you 
talk 
> to someone you haven't met personally. I believe you wouldn't dare to talk like this while 
> sitting at the same table in one room - or if so, you are the ones who have sunken low 
... 
> Thats one of the bad things about open internet, groups and boards: every twit can type 
> shit on his keyboard.
> 
> You are using words like theft and stealing, yes even 'holly war' (you ment holy I guess) 
- 
> ridiculous! Tell us - what has been stolen from you, what is gone forever, what has been 
> damaged? Go on and specify the damage! That's in fact what you must do before writing 
> an invoice or even going to court - otherwise the judge might just laugh at you.
> 
> You are talking about commercial use. Go on you materialistic professionals - calculate 
> the chance of a mass production of such a pano-screen. Name a global investor who 
> would spend a cent!? Every public institution receives monetary support from the state 
or 
> from companies - but not solely for commercial purposes. Quite a lot of developments 
are 
> done for the sake of science and research, to bring knowledge and experience to higher 
> levels by not only looking at the profit!
> 
> There has been no damage neither to you or your work nor to third parties. PROOF only 
> one case, where you have received the right to publish on WWP, but NOT somewhere 
else?! 
> If it is published on WWP, it can easily be seen on Google Earth (by FREE downloading 
the 
> placemarks) - what can be more public? You have no control at all, where and when 
your 
> panos are seen. A rights-contract about that is futile.
> 
> You are the ones who take 'different measurements', you compare apples and oranges. 
> You should look at the 'real thing', i.e. what has happened effectively, then go on with 
> your work and save your families from starving, you paupers.
> 
> Now I feel better - I had to vent my anger about your inadequate aggressive behavior ... 
> And hey dorks, read your own words, they don't solve any problem, they are just a 
> squandering of bandwidth. :p
> 
> 
> (* Of course I do not mean the whole WWP group! But I am too chicken-hearted to name 
> the handful - the right ones will know by discovering quotations)
>




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