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Re: Holly WAR?! :D
ptgroup 2008-Jun-27 18:49:00
John
he IS real, the one who talkes to you:
http://www.circulus.de/
http://www.stuttgart360.de/
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/account/myprofile/477754
http://www.lumas.de/?id=610&wid=1331&artist=686
If you "google" josh von staudach - you?ll find out more.
At least is he a professional photographer
Ciao
Mike
www.360de.de
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Von: #removed# [mailto:#removed#]Im Auftrag von
johncharlesriley
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juni 2008 19:25
An: #removed#
Betreff: Re: Holly WAR?! :D
Wow, Josh... it is hard to know just how to respond to this tirade. Could
you point us to
your work? Just something to let us know that you are a genuine person and
not a pawn
of ZKM? I mean, are you able to document that you are a photographer
(amateur or pro)
in the USA or South America or Australia, or whatever? I just have trouble
believing that
you aren't associated with ZKM somehow. It would be easier to imagine
trying to have a
dialogue with you if I (we) were certain of whom we were talking to.
John
--- In #removed#, "Josh" <wwp@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hurray - here they are again, the narrow-minded* who forgot to take the
blinkers off.
You
> talk about artwork and you want to be artists? The way you talk reveals
that you haven't
> even caught a glimpse of arts. Meanwhile I hope there will never be a
collaboration
> between you and ZKM because you don't deserve it. You have NO IDEA, what
immense
> development has been done by the people at ZKM. Compared to such
creative genius
you
> are just pathetic bourgeois with dollar-signs in your eyes. You have not
the brains to
> understand the meaning of 'net culture' because you are not cultured.
>
> Too harsh words for you? I am smirking. I am just talking to you in the
same way you
talk
> to someone you haven't met personally. I believe you wouldn't dare to
talk like this while
> sitting at the same table in one room - or if so, you are the ones who
have sunken low
...
> Thats one of the bad things about open internet, groups and boards:
every twit can type
> shit on his keyboard.
>
> You are using words like theft and stealing, yes even 'holly war' (you
ment holy I guess)
-
> ridiculous! Tell us - what has been stolen from you, what is gone
forever, what has been
> damaged? Go on and specify the damage! That's in fact what you must do
before writing
> an invoice or even going to court - otherwise the judge might just laugh
at you.
>
> You are talking about commercial use. Go on you materialistic
professionals - calculate
> the chance of a mass production of such a pano-screen. Name a global
investor who
> would spend a cent!? Every public institution receives monetary support
from the state
or
> from companies - but not solely for commercial purposes. Quite a lot of
developments
are
> done for the sake of science and research, to bring knowledge and
experience to higher
> levels by not only looking at the profit!
>
> There has been no damage neither to you or your work nor to third
parties. PROOF only
> one case, where you have received the right to publish on WWP, but NOT
somewhere
else?!
> If it is published on WWP, it can easily be seen on Google Earth (by
FREE downloading
the
> placemarks) - what can be more public? You have no control at all, where
and when
your
> panos are seen. A rights-contract about that is futile.
>
> You are the ones who take 'different measurements', you compare apples
and oranges.
> You should look at the 'real thing', i.e. what has happened effectively,
then go on with
> your work and save your families from starving, you paupers.
>
> Now I feel better - I had to vent my anger about your inadequate
aggressive behavior ...
> And hey dorks, read your own words, they don't solve any problem, they
are just a
> squandering of bandwidth. :p
>
>
> (* Of course I do not mean the whole WWP group! But I am too
chicken-hearted to name
> the handful - the right ones will know by discovering quotations)
>
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