wwp@yahoogroups.com:
Re: some research
AYRTON 2008-May-27 14:16:00
Yuv, Willy, Hans, Milko, Carl, Caroling, Don, and THE WHOLE WWP PANOGRAPHERS
Count on me, to support any acts in favor to be compensate to ALL OF US, for
this ROBBERY.
Doesn't matter the future now for me
What really matter is the past, what they have illegally done already.
They had money to buy stuff
They had money to pay their salaries (don't tell me all of them work for
free)
Why should OUR PANOS get for free ?
Specially that we didn't know about the usage !!!
Anyway I support also the comission, but I would like to have HAns Nyberg on
that too
Since he's a commercial photographer too, knwoing better about usage fees
and advertising policies, like I do down here in Brazil.
So my proposal goes to
WILLY, since as Yuv said, Willy has the "time" factor with him
CARL, for helping in germany too
HANS, for being an advertising photographer AND having the world know "
panoramas.dk" recognition
MILKO, for being in Canada and good on writing too
YUV, for being a leader in searching and knowing the facts, etc ...
CAROLING, so we have a feminine point of view too, specially that ms Petra
is in the comand there
AND
If someone from the WWP Team would be able to join would be great, maybe
MARKUS, or DON or LANDIS.
Anyway, I'm here to sign up, with invoices, or lawyers, etc ...
BUT
It HAS to be PAIED by the Illegal usage until NOW !
And specially for being STOLEN from the WWP SERVERS !
Sincerely
AYRTON
sorry for the bad english.
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Yuval Levy <#removed#> wrote:
> Milko,
>
> good analysis, as always.
>
> Milko Amorth wrote:
> > blunt insult and disrespectful beyond measure, in my opinion.
>
> exactly, that's what globorama is.
>
>
> > Carl's initiation about usage fee use sounds a good idea to me, just to
> > make a point. This is huge, make no mistake. They have a lot to loose
> now,
>
> yes, can somebody in Germany volunteer to draft an invoice? for now make
> it into a spreadsheet so that we can add to the count of works being
> invoiced.
>
> @Carl: I would love it if it was you to do this ;-)
>
>
> > I think it is a good idea to take some action now. First i would propose
> > to lock up the qtvrs on the site.
>
> no - technical stuff can wait for later. this sort of locking does not
> work technically, and doing it now sends a signal of "we have not
> protected our work as good as we should have", while the clearer signal
> is already out there: we protect our work by legal means and not by
> technical means, leaving it up to the viewer to behave legally or face
> consequences.
>
>
> > Further I propose 2 usage fees for settlement to be put in a fund for WWP
> > issues and donations (like some toys for Don, Landis and Markus for
> > compensation).
>
> proposal worth considering, but for now there is zero money to consider.
> let's first see how far we get in the negotiation.
>
>
> > 1st: a fee for images used in the past and damages done for a cease and
> > desist order, or
> >
> > 2nd: fees for images used until to day and in the future for further
> > presentation.
>
> before talking the future I want to have the past settled. And if from
> the settlement of the past I see that the other party understands
> copyright and show signs of being respectful in the future to us and to
> other artists, then I may consider licensing for the future (and even:
> donating a license for the future, if the proper conditions for a
> donation are met).
>
>
> > I also would propose an action panel to deal with them on wwp
> contributors
> > behalves:
> > I,ll start with:
> >
> > Yuval Levy
> > Carl von Einem
> > Willy Kaemena
> >
> > Anybody any thoughts on that?
>
> I'd like you on that panel too. Somebody in Germany should be the lead.
>
> I'd kindly ask Willy to take the lead (aren't you recently retired, with
> a lot of time on a high speed train and with a notebook ;-) )
>
> I'll be happy to help/assist.
>
> Yuv
>
>
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