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Date/Time:2008-May-28 20:41:00
Subject:Re: Correction of some dates - was: Re:Globorama: How big is the problem

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: Correction of some dates - was: Re:Globorama: How big is the problem Willy Kaemena 2008-May-28 20:41:00
Thank you Gabi for the correction of dates and events

this is very important to know.

Willy Kaemena

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On May 28, 2008, at 22:25, Gabi Haindl wrote:

> Seems some dates got mixed up in all the mails trying to summarize  
> what
> happened.
>
> This is from my mail to the organisators of the WWP:
> ...
> I noticed about that in autum last year when they presented this  
> show and
> others in the ZKM as PanoramaFestival (29.09.2007 - 16.03.2008) and  
> a note
> about that was in the german internet news of a computer journal.
> (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/suche/ergebnis?rm=result;words=Globorama;...
> loborama;url=/newsticker/meldung/96434/) The description was a bit  
> weired,
> so I had a look at the Globorama homepage (
> http://www.zkm.de/panoramafestival/index.php?option=com_content&task...
> =40&Itemid=83&lang=en ) and found the World Wide Panorama mentioned  
> in a
> small sentence: "... The project shows image material form the World  
> Wide
> Panorama Project."
> ...
> (end of quote)
>
> I went there the 19th of October 2007. Two days before the Globorama  
> ended
> as far as I know from the official flyer of the PanoramaFestival.
>
> (again from the mail to the WWP organisators:)
> ...In Globorama you can navigate on a satellite map. The map pans as  
> you
> move the laserpointer. Marks are at the places where panoramas are
> availiable and if you click on them, the panorama is directly  
> opened, means
> the projection switches from the satellite map to a static image of  
> the
> choosen panorama. You can not turn the panorama, but it is  
> completely around
> you, but only the small cylinder. The panoramas are displayed  
> without any
> WWP logo and without the pages of the WWP. the mark on the map has the
> photographers name included, but that is all.
> And as we expected, we found our own panoramas which we have made for
> several WWPs and panoramas of other photographers from the WWP whom  
> we know.
> Tim Hatch (Denton, Texas) for example. Neither we nor Tim was asked  
> for
> permission.
> ...
> (end of quote)
>
> October 19th 2007 we (I came with my partner, also a member of the WWP
> community) talked with Mr. Linterman in person. Some of the facts of  
> that
> talk: He has no permission from anyone of the WWP. We have been the  
> first
> ones who contacted him. And that would be the last time the  
> Globorama would
> be displayed ever.
>
> The next things happened this year in April. Because I gave Mr.  
> Linterman my
> card I got a phonecall from Mrs. Petra Kaiser on April 16th 2008.  
> She wanted
> to know how to get in contact with all the photographers of the WWP  
> because
> the Globorama will continue to be shown. Again I told them about the  
> mailing
> list and the organisators of the WWP.
> Searching the web after the call I found the next dates for the  
> Globorama:
> 16.05.-25.05.08 "Ideenpark" 2008, Stuttgart, Ausstellung von  
> "Globorama"
> 02.10.- Ende 08 "Biennale von Sevilla", Sevilla, Ausstellung von  
> "Globorama
> "
> 18.10.- 08.11.08 "eLandscapes", eArts Festival, Shanghai, Ausstellung
> "Globorama"
>
> April 17th 2008 I wrote the mail to the four organisators of the WWP.
>
> For the dates after that, have a look in Don's mail and then Willy's  
> report
> of his visit in Stuttgart.
>
> So the first time the ZKM was definetely made aware of using the  
> content of
> the WWP without the permission of all the photographers was already in
> October last year.
>
> I am sorry that I haven't informed this list immediately after I saw  
> the
> Globorama in action.
>
> And a note to Mr. Linterman: Despite the fact that you have my  
> complete
> postal adress, mail adress and phone number, I haven't gotten any of  
> the
> mails to the photographers from you.
>
> Gabi Haindl
> www.kugelblick.de
>
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: #removed# [mailto:#removed#]Im Auftrag von
> Willy Kaemena
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2008 16:21
> An: #removed#
> Betreff: Re: Re:Globorama: How big is the problem
>
> Caroling,
>
> Don was contacted on MAY 8th 2008, after Gabi Haindl (WWP
> Participant) found out about the Globorama and it's content in April
> 2008, but The first Globorama exhibition took part in 2007 and ZKM
> started in 2005 with the Globorama project....
>
> Willy Kaemena
>
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>
>
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