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Mailinglist:wwp@yahoogroups.com
Sender:Markus Altendorff
Date/Time:2006-Jul-18 17:45:00
Subject:Re: Nabble has nabbed our messages

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: Nabble has nabbed our messages Markus Altendorff 2006-Jul-18 17:45:00
Landis wrote:
> 
> 
>  > OK, i just found #removed# COM <mailto:LISTS%40NABBLE.COM> in our 
> member's directory.
>  > Not sure how they got in there. I vote we kick them out so
>  > hard they need a satellite uplink to just receive a FAX...
> 
> Yikes!
> 
> OK, I didn't realize it was such a contentious issue. I let them in.
> 
> Actually one of our fellow WWP members asked that they be let in at
> the same time that some of this discussion was going on on the new
> PanoTools and Apple lists. I gave the WWP member a chance to explain
> to the moderators and asked for comments from the moderators. None
> of us thought this was a problem at the time (I guess Markus missed
> those messages) and I let it go through.

Yes, i just found the mail from somewhere in june. The name 
"Nabble" just didn't ring any bell then - i thought it was 
just some service that aggregates mailing lists for 
individual users... not a "secondary world-viewable mail 
archive" ;)

> I don't use Nabble or GMANE but don't (didn't) see a problem as long
> as they keep our email addresses private. No one can post through
> Nabble without already being an approved member of the WWP list.
> 
> AFAIK this was just a different way of viewing the list that some
> people really preferred. I'll let any Nabble or GMANE users post
> their defense of the service before I do anything.
> 
> Let me know if there are good reasons to kick them out and request
> that they delete their archive.

Well, the one thing that bugs me about Nabble is that they 
took/take content from what is basically a "closed list" 
(i.e. members need approval, the archives are 
password-locked and require membership) and put it on the 
world wide web "for all". I don't mind if a list 
specialising on technical assistance or product reviews 
decides to create a public nabble archive - i'm just not 
sure we need our personal mail conversations (which our 
recent debate at least in parts sounds like ;) spread out 
over the web and frozen and archived for eternity (or 
nabble/google/archive.org cache server breakdown, whichever 
occurs first ;) on the internet. For an ill-chosen metaphor: 
I can't imagine myself running around with a bullhorn just 
to tell my next-door neighbour i disagree with his choice of 
garden flowers... ;)

-Markus

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