wwp@yahoogroups.com:
Re: Nabble has nabbed our messages
Markus Altendorff 2006-Jul-18 17:45:00
Landis wrote:
>
>
> > OK, i just found #removed# COM <mailto:LISTS%40NABBLE.COM> in our
> member's directory.
> > Not sure how they got in there. I vote we kick them out so
> > hard they need a satellite uplink to just receive a FAX...
>
> Yikes!
>
> OK, I didn't realize it was such a contentious issue. I let them in.
>
> Actually one of our fellow WWP members asked that they be let in at
> the same time that some of this discussion was going on on the new
> PanoTools and Apple lists. I gave the WWP member a chance to explain
> to the moderators and asked for comments from the moderators. None
> of us thought this was a problem at the time (I guess Markus missed
> those messages) and I let it go through.
Yes, i just found the mail from somewhere in june. The name
"Nabble" just didn't ring any bell then - i thought it was
just some service that aggregates mailing lists for
individual users... not a "secondary world-viewable mail
archive" ;)
> I don't use Nabble or GMANE but don't (didn't) see a problem as long
> as they keep our email addresses private. No one can post through
> Nabble without already being an approved member of the WWP list.
>
> AFAIK this was just a different way of viewing the list that some
> people really preferred. I'll let any Nabble or GMANE users post
> their defense of the service before I do anything.
>
> Let me know if there are good reasons to kick them out and request
> that they delete their archive.
Well, the one thing that bugs me about Nabble is that they
took/take content from what is basically a "closed list"
(i.e. members need approval, the archives are
password-locked and require membership) and put it on the
world wide web "for all". I don't mind if a list
specialising on technical assistance or product reviews
decides to create a public nabble archive - i'm just not
sure we need our personal mail conversations (which our
recent debate at least in parts sounds like ;) spread out
over the web and frozen and archived for eternity (or
nabble/google/archive.org cache server breakdown, whichever
occurs first ;) on the internet. For an ill-chosen metaphor:
I can't imagine myself running around with a bullhorn just
to tell my next-door neighbour i disagree with his choice of
garden flowers... ;)
-Markus