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Re: Where is Slovenia?
Bernhard Vogl 2008-Jun-17 11:06:00
Hi Willy,
I know it is the wrong place to discuss this topic - but maybe it will lead to some interesting themes for the upcoming WWP events...?
I agree with Bostjan that the people at the Krsko plant did the right thing: inform the respective instances about the problem, even if it doesn't affect the environment. They were human beings and they did it right.
In Chernobyl, it was a human error which led to the catastrophy. And the tragic about this error is, that the system itself would have prevented the disaster if not arrogant employees would have overriden the automatic system security.
I can only repeat that i'm not against nuclear power (as long as it works safely, it is better than millions of 2 stroke engines), but it is a bad and potential dangerous habit to hush about problems, especially when they turn out to be more dangerous than they look in the first place (see Forsmark)
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> Datum: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:43:54 +0200
> Von: Willy Kaemena <#removed#>
> An: #removed#
> Betreff: Re: Where is Slovenia?
> heheh it was an internal problem of the plant which could happen and
> it is built to cope with that it has nothing to do with the
> environment around our with other countries.. again if in the
> petrochemical complex of Wien Schwechat a flange leaks and 5000
> l crude oil is contaminating the soil, then we have an incident at
> open air... but that nobody cares about...
>
> Because it is a "mysterical" nuclar driven powerplant then even if
> the gardener cuts his finger when caring the flowers is already an
> incident....
>
> That is the problem the unnecessary and wrong importance of whatever
> happens. Things could fail, pumps fails, gasket fails etc as
> long you have a backup system to cope with that, it is normal and no
> incident. There are other "incidents" in the world only ONE example:
> in New Dehli millions of 2 stroke engines are polluting the air with
> oily stinky fumes, so that you cannot breathe anymore that I call an
> daily incident but that nobody cares about.
>
> Willy
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> On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:12, Bernhard Vogl wrote:
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> > Hi Willy,
> >
> > I suspect you are a little prejudiced? ;-)
> > (As we say in German: "Wessen Brot ich ess', dessen Lied ich sing'")
> >
> > I have no fundamental problem with nuclear power plants, but:
> > - it was an incident
> > - the alarm system didn't work
> > - It needs to be allowed to discuss and correct failing actual
> > states if needed.
> >
> > Maybe Austrians are used to challenge open questions more actively?
> > You know, we are the only country in the world which built a nuclear
> > power plant and decided NOT to use it! :-)
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:45:05 +0200
> > > Von: Willy Kaemena <#removed#>
> > > An: #removed#
> > > Betreff: Re: Where is Slovenia?
> >
> > > and what is the problem? no problem as there is the containment for
> > > that purpose and the emergency feed systems made for that purpose. A
> > > lot of noise for nothing.. only a bad message is a good message
> > > ( Bild und Kronenzeitung...)
> > > If you would know all little incidents in highly dangerous chemical
> > > petro chemical industry it could fill books everyday... and they
> > dont
> > > have a containment or 4 different independent emergency systems..
> > >
> > > Willy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:22, Bernhard Vogl wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry to correct you Willy, but this was a real incident.
> > > > 3m? of wasted water per hour leaked:
> > > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernkraftwerk_Kr%C5%A1ko
> > > >
> > > > It was accidentally misinterpreted by several members of the
> > ECURIE
> > > > warning system.
> > > > No good sign if we ever have a catastrophic fault like
> > > > Chernobyl... :-(
> > > >
> > > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > > > Datum: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:09:54 +0200
> > > > > Von: Willy Kaemena <#removed#>
> > > > > An: #removed#
> > > > > Betreff: Re: Where is Slovenia?
> > > >
> > > > > well no wonder, because it was a false alarm a lot of noise for
> > > > > nothing beside testing the european alarm system. If we would
> > have
> > > > > this for other industries then the papers had to print two more
> > > > pages
> > > > > daily..
> > > > >
> > > > > Willy Kaemena
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