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Re: jpeg to flash quality issues???
Dave 360texas.com 2009-Jun-26 14:30:00
Flash Beta - for this event only I will upload a JPEG. I want to see the convert to flash quality (smooth rotation, zoom in/out) and then decide if we want to continue to work with WWP.
You should know that not every one creates .jpg panoramas. For full screen 1920 x 1200 full screen display quality reasons we stopped using .jpgs 2 years ago. For example, we start out with raw .cr2's, use ACR to converted to 16bit TIF, stitch in PTgui, output to 6000 x 3000 52mb 16bit .tif spherical pano, load it into Pano2VR and convert to 1.5mb QTVR .mov or single file 1.5mb .swf. We simply do not use .jpgs because they lack the ability for full screen high quality detail with a small single file for the internet.
Converting a 6000 x 3000 8bit 52mb tiff to jpeg 100% no compression results in a 6000 x 3000 8bit 4.8mb jpg with yet to be determined WWP conversion full screen quality.
I am using what I think is the most recent version of QTVR plug-in Version 7.6.2 with IE 8. I did go back to our first WWP submission 6/04 and I looked at all of ours through the last Diversity entry. ALL of them worked with QTVR 7.6.2. The only issue was for 9/05 Energy and the embedded audio track did not display or play sound. BUT that was the only entry we used sound.
We will wait and see how well the WWP conversion works before submitting future WWP work. Is there any URL that will show us in advance the WPP conversion quality?
I guess my last comment would be - why not just let upload a 1.5 to 2.0 mb single standalone flash .swf ? Why does WWP need go through all the conversion issues?
/s/
Dave still at 360Texas.com
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> don't want to bother with the "beta" flash support just yet (or not at all),
> then feel free to use Quicktime like during the events before and simply
> disregard the "jpeg upload" part.
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> If the equirect is optional, and an entry might not have a Flash version, then the experience for those who "Prefer Flash", will be incomplete. How will it work when the Flash preference is set but there's no Flash version. A message like "No Flash version"? Then I have to click "Back" to make another try? Maybe if you say "Prefer Flash (Beta)" it will help. Or are you converting all QTs to Flash?
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> Re: the "set top/bottom limit" - it's only helpful for partial spheres ,,,
> For cylinders, ...
> However, for cylindrical panoramas with large vertical field of view,
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> If all of them are equirectangles, I do not see the difference between these. Isn't a cylinder a partial sphere? And the set limits are there for what I call a cylinder, so how do I know that it isn't important?
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> > One thing high on my list is to teach Internet Explorer to reveal
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> I have sympathy for you. This changing of formats is a huge job with myriad pesky time-consuming details. I appreciate the brave bold move because without it, WWP would die. But it is not easy at all.
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> > Once this works, I can turn the "Prefer Flash/Prefer Quicktime" link ...have the browser decide
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> Not sure about this. Personally, I like the firm view of my preference. It might be my imagination, but it seems to me that QT panos usually flow more smoothly. When I come to one that I like to spin in, I might switch back and forth between QT and Flash.
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