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Re: Globorama
Robert Bilsland 2008-May-26 22:29:00
Willy,
Am I right in saying that the panoramas that were on your film were
just the ones that were shown while you were there? I'm guessing that
there were plenty of other panoramas that weren't selected? Tying this
together with the fact that not everyone on the list has received the
usage request emails directly from ZKM, do you think that if you have
been emailed directly they have at least a single panorama of yours on
their server and that they are targeting the people they need to
contact? Has anyone who has seen their work being used on your video
of the Globorama in action not directly received an email from ZKM?
Just a thought while trying to get a good view of the issues.
Bob Bilsland.
--- In #removed#, Willy Kaemena <wkaemena@...> wrote:
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> Ok
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> here is the movie (18Mb) which gives you an even better idea about how
> the WWP was used in the Globorama project.
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> Don't expect a beautiful movie... it is only a bunch of evidences.
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> And keep cool !! lets think together how we could approach this
> breach of Copyright. Don't bombard the owner of Globorama with single
> complaints at the moment.
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> Only in case that you have already given your permit, I would suggest
> to withdraw your permission to them.
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> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/GloboramaMov ( Fast Start might not
> work so let it load...)
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> here me yesterday thinking about Globorama 20 min prior to departure
> of my train from Stuttgart southern Germany to Bremen northern
> Germany http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/DB/DBLounge/
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> and next to the Globorama was a flying model in scale 1:15 of the new
> Airbus A 380
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Air/A380Model
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> Willy Kaemena
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> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
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> On May 25, 2008, at 19:01, Willy Kaemena wrote:
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> > OK folks
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> > I am ready with my 5h exhibition visit of Globorama. here some facts:
> >
> > - They use some WWP apparently form 2006 and before
> > - the panos are used in a partial non interactive cylindrical
> > projection and it bears several times on the 360 degrees the name of
> > the photographer.
> > - The panos are coming from their local server
> > - the satellite maps used are NOT from Google Earth, but Microsoft
> > according them, due too license problems wit GE......
> > - whatever I could capture on video will be put together showing as an
> > evidence with the name of the photographer and the pano This movie
> > should be online in a few hours from now.
> > - asking about when Globorama was developed they answered from 2006
> > onwards.
> > - next planned exhibitions are planned in France and Seville Spain.
> > - as already known from their website, they show WWP panoramas from
> > their local server and live webcams is the only content being
> > streamed.
> > - the navigation with the laser pointer is way cool.
> >
> > OK now putting the movie together... while traveling at 250km/h
> > towards my home in Bremen...
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> > And then lets decide what to do with them....
> >
> > Quite a lot of public and sponsor money went to this project...
> >
> > Willy Kaemena
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> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
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> > On May 25, 2008, at 8:17, Willy Kaemena wrote:
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> > > Bostjan
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> > > I am quite sure that the presentation of the panorama controlled
> > with
> > > a laser pointer is quite unique. But again that gives them no rights
> > > to present the WWP without prior release or negotiation by each
> > > photographer.
> > >
> > > Just heading towards Stuttgart at 125 mph ( 200km/h) soon
> > > accelerating to 186 mph ( 300km/h)
> > >
> > > Willy
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> > > On May 24, 2008, at 18:51, Bostjan Burger wrote:
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> > >>> Bo Lorentzen : "This page is presenting the panorama fest as the
> > >> artwork or
> > >> presentation by Bernd Lintermann, Joachim B?ttger, Torsten
> > >> Belschner. Which
> > >> clearly it is not."
> > >>
> > >> That is another ?BINGO?! Yes ...whose artwork was projection
> > anyway?
> > >> Ours or of the organizers of the Globorama project? I am familiar
> > >> with such installations as Globorama ? it is trivial example: my
> > >> daughters asked me to drive them to Disneyland in Paris and what I
> > >> saw there ? a great 'cyclorama alike' theatre where was projected
> > >> 360? movie (that was in the year 2003), I think that was a Voyage
> > of
> > >> Jules Verne over the France. The feeling of watching the movie was
> > >> fantastic and the technology of the projection was the same as this
> > >> one in Stuttgart, at least what I saw in the previously posted
> > >> movie. In Disneyland was projected 360? movie (do you remember
> > >> Jeffrey's movie over the Prague ? 360cities.net?), but there in
> > >> Stuttgart was projected the interactive VR panorama. So I consider
> > >> that the "artwork point" of the installation was the possibility to
> > >> grab (read: hijack) the pano from the "free" internet and project
> > it
> > >> on the 360? wall? After my na?ve experience from the
> > >> past I had put on my web site - translated from Slovene language:
> > >> "All data, text, photos, pictures and VR panoramas are owned by the
> > >> author. No other use like storing to other servers, hot linking,
> > >> copy-pasting, modifying images is not allowed. "
> > >> I am really curious what is happening in Stuttgart, unfortunately
> > >> there is seven hours drive from my place to there and I have a lack
> > >> of time at the moment
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> > >> :) Bostjan
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> > > Willy Kaemena
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> > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
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