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Date/Time:2008-May-26 22:15:00
Subject:Re: Globorama

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: Re: Globorama Eduardo Hutter 2008-May-26 22:15:00
Thanks Paco for the words, I was trying to figure out how say that and 
you gave me the start. :)

Like you, I think that the Globorama is interesting project and agree 
when you sugest to give an open hand.

Yes, they acted wrong using our material without consent but now they 
are on the right track and the whole WWP and its members would be 
favored by associating with this project. 

I have been seeing copyright infringement threads on different lists 
which I'm in. This happened not once or twice but several times now and 
as far as I know, on most of them the only ones that get something in 
the end are the people stealing VRs, for example, that Russian site 
(sorry, can't recall the address, and sorry, nothing against Russians 
specifically).

Yuval's message just opened my eyes to Creative Commons licensing and 
made me start think about changing the way I set rights of use on my 
material from now on.

The Globorama project was launched with the wrong foot, concerning 
respect to copyrighted work and the photographers themselves. 
Consequence of the usual concept that "if it's on the net, then it's 
free" (probably aggravated by a possible comprehension that they are 
part of an "educational" project, thus "fair use") and it can't be 
excused - BUT - they changed the approach. If it was because some/any 
member of our group questioned them or not, *for me* it doesn't really 
matter, what matters to me is that they changed their approach.

This an awesome project and I bet that under any indignation that he 
might have felt,  Willy "Holmes" must have been fascinated by it. At 
least I would be.

Unless I'm being extremely naive and you guys convince me of that, I 
intend to grant them permission to use my material.

Best regards for everyone.

Eduardo Hutter


* Paco wrote, On 26/05/2008 6:08 PM:
>
>  Hi Willy, thanks for your efforts. Now it's all clear.
>
>  I am thinking about other web 2.0 projects like: flickr, panoramio,
>  youtube, ... ?What would be them without user content?. But in those
>  cases users get something: a free platform, a community, friends,
>  acknowledgement, etc.. But at the end, thanks to users some companys
>  have earned a lot of money (selling them, with advertising).
>
>  This is not the case of Globorama, that I think that is a interesting
>  experience, also the project has not the same size.
>
>  An Open Hand or a Closed Fist? Today open hand is more usual, but
>  under control.
>
>  Best Regards
>
>  Paco Lorente Valencia Spain

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