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Re: Globorama
Willy Kaemena 2008-May-26 22:37:00
I could only trigger a few panos on the (Microsoft) Earth map, but
from what I saw I would say all WWPs from 2004/2005/2006 are
implemented on their servers and modified with the name of the
photographer on it and shown in a kind of cylindrical projection.
Willy Kaemena
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/
On May 27, 2008, at 0:29, Robert Bilsland wrote:
> Willy,
>
> Am I right in saying that the panoramas that were on your film were
> just the ones that were shown while you were there? I'm guessing that
> there were plenty of other panoramas that weren't selected? Tying this
> together with the fact that not everyone on the list has received the
> usage request emails directly from ZKM, do you think that if you have
> been emailed directly they have at least a single panorama of yours on
> their server and that they are targeting the people they need to
> contact? Has anyone who has seen their work being used on your video
> of the Globorama in action not directly received an email from ZKM?
>
> Just a thought while trying to get a good view of the issues.
>
> Bob Bilsland.
>
> --- In #removed#, Willy Kaemena <wkaemena@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok
> >
> > here is the movie (18Mb) which gives you an even better idea about
> how
> > the WWP was used in the Globorama project.
> >
> > Don't expect a beautiful movie... it is only a bunch of evidences.
> >
> > And keep cool !! lets think together how we could approach this
> > breach of Copyright. Don't bombard the owner of Globorama with
> single
> > complaints at the moment.
> >
> > Only in case that you have already given your permit, I would
> suggest
> > to withdraw your permission to them.
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/GloboramaMov ( Fast Start might not
> > work so let it load...)
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> > here me yesterday thinking about Globorama 20 min prior to departure
> > of my train from Stuttgart southern Germany to Bremen northern
> > Germany http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/DB/DBLounge/
> >
> > and next to the Globorama was a flying model in scale 1:15 of the
> new
> > Airbus A 380
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Air/A380Model
> >
> > Willy Kaemena
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> >
> > On May 25, 2008, at 19:01, Willy Kaemena wrote:
> >
> > > OK folks
> > >
> > > I am ready with my 5h exhibition visit of Globorama. here some
> facts:
> > >
> > > - They use some WWP apparently form 2006 and before
> > > - the panos are used in a partial non interactive cylindrical
> > > projection and it bears several times on the 360 degrees the
> name of
> > > the photographer.
> > > - The panos are coming from their local server
> > > - the satellite maps used are NOT from Google Earth, but Microsoft
> > > according them, due too license problems wit GE......
> > > - whatever I could capture on video will be put together showing
> as an
> > > evidence with the name of the photographer and the pano This movie
> > > should be online in a few hours from now.
> > > - asking about when Globorama was developed they answered from
> 2006
> > > onwards.
> > > - next planned exhibitions are planned in France and Seville
> Spain.
> > > - as already known from their website, they show WWP panoramas
> from
> > > their local server and live webcams is the only content being
> > > streamed.
> > > - the navigation with the laser pointer is way cool.
> > >
> > > OK now putting the movie together... while traveling at 250km/h
> > > towards my home in Bremen...
> > >
> > > And then lets decide what to do with them....
> > >
> > > Quite a lot of public and sponsor money went to this project...
> > >
> > > Willy Kaemena
> > >
> > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> > >
> > > On May 25, 2008, at 8:17, Willy Kaemena wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bostjan
> > > >
> > > > I am quite sure that the presentation of the panorama controlled
> > > with
> > > > a laser pointer is quite unique. But again that gives them no
> rights
> > > > to present the WWP without prior release or negotiation by each
> > > > photographer.
> > > >
> > > > Just heading towards Stuttgart at 125 mph ( 200km/h) soon
> > > > accelerating to 186 mph ( 300km/h)
> > > >
> > > > Willy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 24, 2008, at 18:51, Bostjan Burger wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> Bo Lorentzen : "This page is presenting the panorama fest as
> the
> > > >> artwork or
> > > >> presentation by Bernd Lintermann, Joachim B?ttger, Torsten
> > > >> Belschner. Which
> > > >> clearly it is not."
> > > >>
> > > >> That is another ?BINGO?! Yes ...whose artwork was projection
> > > anyway?
> > > >> Ours or of the organizers of the Globorama project? I am
> familiar
> > > >> with such installations as Globorama ? it is trivial example:
> my
> > > >> daughters asked me to drive them to Disneyland in Paris and
> what I
> > > >> saw there ? a great 'cyclorama alike' theatre where was
> projected
> > > >> 360? movie (that was in the year 2003), I think that was a
> Voyage
> > > of
> > > >> Jules Verne over the France. The feeling of watching the
> movie was
> > > >> fantastic and the technology of the projection was the same
> as this
> > > >> one in Stuttgart, at least what I saw in the previously posted
> > > >> movie. In Disneyland was projected 360? movie (do you remember
> > > >> Jeffrey's movie over the Prague ? 360cities.net?), but there in
> > > >> Stuttgart was projected the interactive VR panorama. So I
> consider
> > > >> that the "artwork point" of the installation was the
> possibility to
> > > >> grab (read: hijack) the pano from the "free" internet and
> project
> > > it
> > > >> on the 360? wall? After my na?ve experience from the
> > > >> past I had put on my web site - translated from Slovene
> language:
> > > >> "All data, text, photos, pictures and VR panoramas are owned
> by the
> > > >> author. No other use like storing to other servers, hot
> linking,
> > > >> copy-pasting, modifying images is not allowed. "
> > > >> I am really curious what is happening in Stuttgart,
> unfortunately
> > > >> there is seven hours drive from my place to there and I have
> a lack
> > > >> of time at the moment
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> :) Bostjan
> > > >>
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> > > > Willy Kaemena
> > > >
> > > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > > > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > > > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > > > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
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