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Date/Time:2008-May-26 15:17:00
Subject:RE: Globorama

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wwp@yahoogroups.com: RE: Globorama Mark D. Fink 2008-May-26 15:17:00
Well, I just finished watching the movie. I'm appalled and outraged! Not
ONCE did I see any of MY images used. What, they weren't GOOD enough to
steal?!?!  :o)

"The only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about..."
Oscar Wilde

Mark
www.nyc.360cities.net
www.pinnacle-vr.com
www.northernlight.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: #removed# [mailto:#removed#] On Behalf Of Willy
> Kaemena
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:55 AM
> To: #removed#
> Subject: Re: Globorama
> 
> Ok
> 
> here is the movie (18Mb) which gives you an even better idea about how
> the WWP was used in the Globorama project.
> 
> Don't expect a beautiful movie... it is only a bunch of evidences.
> 
> And keep cool !!  lets  think together how we could approach this
> breach of Copyright. Don't bombard the owner of Globorama with single
> complaints at the moment.
> 
> Only in case that you have already given  your permit, I would suggest
> to  withdraw your permission to them.
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/GloboramaMov ( Fast Start might not
> work so let it load...)
> 
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> here me yesterday thinking about Globorama 20 min prior to departure
> of my train from Stuttgart southern Germany to Bremen northern
> Germany  http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/DB/DBLounge/
> 
> and next to the Globorama was a flying model in scale 1:15 of the new
> Airbus A 380
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Air/A380Model
> 
> Willy Kaemena
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> 
> On May 25, 2008, at 19:01, Willy Kaemena wrote:
> 
> > OK folks
> >
> > I am ready with my 5h exhibition visit of Globorama. here some facts:
> >
> > - They use some WWP apparently form 2006 and before
> > - the panos are used in a partial non interactive cylindrical
> > projection and it bears several times on the 360 degrees the name of
> > the photographer.
> > - The panos are coming from their local server
> > - the satellite maps used are NOT from Google Earth, but Microsoft
> > according them, due too license problems wit GE......
> > - whatever I could capture on video will be put together showing as an
> > evidence with the name of the photographer and the pano This movie
> > should be online in a few hours from now.
> > - asking about when Globorama was developed they answered from 2006
> > onwards.
> > - next planned exhibitions are planned in France and Seville Spain.
> > - as already known from their website, they show WWP panoramas from
> > their local server and live webcams is the only content being
> > streamed.
> > - the navigation with the laser pointer is way cool.
> >
> > OK now putting the movie together... while traveling at 250km/h
> > towards my home in Bremen...
> >
> > And then lets decide what to do with them....
> >
> > Quite a lot of public and sponsor money went to this project...
> >
> > Willy Kaemena
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> >
> > On May 25, 2008, at 8:17, Willy Kaemena wrote:
> >
> > > Bostjan
> > >
> > > I am quite sure that the presentation of the panorama controlled
> > with
> > > a laser pointer is quite unique. But again that gives them no rights
> > > to present the WWP without prior release or negotiation by each
> > > photographer.
> > >
> > > Just heading towards Stuttgart at 125 mph ( 200km/h) soon
> > > accelerating to 186 mph ( 300km/h)
> > >
> > > Willy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 24, 2008, at 18:51, Bostjan Burger wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Bo Lorentzen : "This page is presenting the panorama fest as the
> > >> artwork or
> > >> presentation by Bernd Lintermann, Joachim B?ttger, Torsten
> > >> Belschner. Which
> > >> clearly it is not."
> > >>
> > >> That is another ?BINGO?! Yes ...whose artwork was projection
> > anyway?
> > >> Ours or of the organizers of the Globorama project? I am familiar
> > >> with such installations as Globorama ? it is trivial example: my
> > >> daughters asked me to drive them to Disneyland in Paris and what I
> > >> saw there ? a great 'cyclorama alike' theatre where was projected
> > >> 360? movie (that was in the year 2003), I think that was a Voyage
> > of
> > >> Jules Verne over the France. The feeling of watching the movie was
> > >> fantastic and the technology of the projection was the same as this
> > >> one in Stuttgart, at least what I saw in the previously posted
> > >> movie. In Disneyland was projected 360? movie (do you remember
> > >> Jeffrey's movie over the Prague ? 360cities.net?), but there in
> > >> Stuttgart was projected the interactive VR panorama. So I consider
> > >> that the ?artwork point? of the installation was the possibility to
> > >> grab (read: hijack) the pano from the ?free? internet and project
> > it
> > >> on the 360? wall? After my na?ve experience from the
> > >> past I had put on my web site - translated from Slovene language:
> > >> ?All data, text, photos, pictures and VR panoramas are owned by the
> > >> author. No other use like storing to other servers, hot linking,
> > >> copy-pasting, modifying images is not allowed. ?
> > >> I am really curious what is happening in Stuttgart, unfortunately
> > >> there is seven hours drive from my place to there and I have a lack
> > >> of time at the moment
> > >
> > >>
> > >> :) Bostjan
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Willy Kaemena
> > >
> > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> > > http://bremen.360cities.net/
> > > http://syria.360cities.net/
> > > http://lisbon.360cities.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
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